To: ANSI ASC X12G TG2 and TIGERS Attendees
From: Debbie Johnson
Oklahoma Tax Commission
ASC X12G TG2 Secretary
Date: May 29, 2001
Subject: ANSI ASC X12G TG2/TIGERS Meeting Minutes
May 2-4, 2001 Cincinnati, OH Interim Meeting
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Tax Information Group for ECommerce Requirements Standardization (TIGERS)
Terry Garber opened the meeting with the tentative agenda and welcomed everyone. The planned agenda:
Wednesday 5/02/2001 (1:00pm to 5:00pm)
Welcome and Introductions
TIGERS Background & Update
IRS & XML Presentation/Discussion
Base Schema Structure
Thursday 5/03/2001 (9:00am to 5:00pm)
Base Schema Structure (cont.)
Payroll Schema Discussion
Sales Tax Schema Discussion
Friday 5/04/2001 (9:00am to 12:00pm)
Motor Fuel Tax Schema
Next Steps
Wednesday 5/02/2001
Terry Garber gave a background history for ASC X12 (TIGERS).
There was a report from the December Interim meeting in Austin, TX, in which
our group started a project in understanding and learning how we might
standardize XML. The big questions were:
"Can we apply the experience, expertise, and lessons learned from the 813 to
XML?" "Can an 'XML base schema' be developed that can be adapted to any tax or
revenue filing?"
Between December and the February Trimester Meeting, 5 teams were built to
begin working on creating a Base Schema, Sales Tax Schema, Payroll Schema,
Corporate Schema, and a Motor Fuel Schema. In February, the Base Schema was
refined by enhancing the name/address structures, recursive detail levels,
boolean line items, and refined transmitter batch vs. single files
information. The work of the Sales Tax and Motor Fuel Teams was reviewed,
and a liaison with XBRL groups was formed.
Greg Carson with the IRS gave an introduction on the interest the IRS has in
developing in XML. Glenda Hayes with the MITRE Corp. gave a presentation on
the IRS and XML. The focus was on XML Technologies for IRS 1120 (Corporate Income Tax).
There are three approaches the IRS is considering:
1) XBRL (eXtensible Business Reporting Language)
** Touches on financial community
2) EDI based (TIGERS XEDI)
** Common generic structure (Leverage of experience from the states)
3) Direct (Schema after Microsoft 1040 Strawman EDI)
** Domain specific data elements terminology.
There was discussion of the TIGERS 813 Base Schema. It is to define
structure of data types that other schemas can be derived from.
John Glaubitz presented how schemas could be broken out and "included" in
other schemas.
Thursday, May 3, 2001 -- Tax Information Group for ECommerce Requirements
Standardization (TIGERS)
Discussion was continued on the 813 TIGERS Base Schema. John Glaubitz
showed the Base Schema as it would look Modularized. The IRS 941 was
discussed. It was related that the parser would look at several things as
one document. Application logic vs. Structure has to be used in order to
determine if only one document will be rejected with errors, or all
documents will be rejected. The Parser is a library of functions and works
like the EDI Translator. There was a lengthy question and answer session
where the best possible solutions were discussed to determine how we proceed
from here.
There was also some discussion on the Payroll and Sales Tax Schemas and the
progress those teams are making. (All discussions envelope all schemas and
possible solutions.) We need to see some demonstrations on how to represent alternatives to the
restrictions. We discussed the Agenda for the Trimester Meeting in St. Louis, MO, on June
4-7.
Friday, May 4, 2001 -- Tax Information Group for ECommerce Requirements
Standardization (TIGERS)
There was discussion of the Motor Fuel Schema work.
We decided that we needed to review our next steps. We are finding that Attributes are more limited in the Base Schema, and we feel that elements may be a better way to go. We need one set of "core components" on an International Level. Other countries are interested in the work TIGERS is doing. They want to be kept involved.
Meeting adjourned.